Everything you need to know about travelling by train in Vietnam

A typical Vietnamese train ready for departure A typical Vietnamese train ready for departure

There are many wonderful reasons why train travel in countries you’re visiting for the first time is so great, and travelling by train in Vietnam is no different. Some of the more obvious reasons include seeing the countryside that you would otherwise have missed from the air. It’s usually much cheaper than flying, and if seeing the countryside doesn’t mean that much to you, if you get your timings right you can take an overnight train and save on the cost of a hotel. After all, when travelling nomad-style every penny counts!

There are many travel blogs that can give you great information on getting from A-B, both those whose businesses are dedicated to doing just that, or other travel bloggers who have done what you’re about to do. However, when it comes to train travel there’s one site that stands out above all others – The Man In Seat 61. No matter where you are, there’s bound to be train travel information that will be of invaluable assistance. We used this site for our train trip up the coast of Vietnam and it saved us a lot of time and energy.

However, while this site and many others provide awesome information, they are not always right. Time moves forward and schedules, rules, costs, etc. change and sometimes it’s not always easy to have the most up to date information. So whatever you do, when you purchase your ticket, even though you think you know the answer because you’ve read it online, ask the person selling you the ticket any questions you may have. I wish I had when I bought our tickets for the first leg of our train ride. Read on to find out what I mean…

Reclining seats in a Vietnamese train

Reclining seats in a Vietnamese train

LEG 1 – Ho Chi Minh City to Nha Trang (411km, 7 hours 37 mins)

I bought two soft seat tickets the day before we were scheduled to leave Ho Chi Minh City for Nha Trang at a cost of around $AU37. Kids 0-4 years of age travel free, so we didn’t have to buy a ticket for Jack, but they don’t get a seat. The train was to depart at 9am and we’d get into Nha Trang at around 4.30pm, which meant we would get to see plenty of the countryside on the way.

Disaster struck from the moment we walked onto the departure platform to find our carriage and board the train. I saw carriage after carriage of four-berth air-conditioned soft sleepers. I was devastated. From reading various blogs I was under the impression this SE5 train only had air-conditioned hard sleepers, air-conditioned soft seats, air-conditioned hard seats, and ordinary hard seats. But here I was looking at carriages filled with soft-sleepers. Maybe my eyes were deceiving me, but I learnt a valuable lesson that I will now pass on to you. When booking your train tickets, regardless of what you’ve read online, ask the person you’re buying the tickets from whether the train you want to use has the kind of seats or sleepers you’re looking for. We wanted soft-sleepers where possible, but the trains we thought had them didn’t fit our schedule, so we went with soft seats for this leg…big mistake.

We boarded the train and it was clear from the moment we stepped foot in the aisle that our packs were not going to fit in the overhead storage racks. So one of our packs ended up on the floor in front of us, seriously diminishing the amount of leg room we had, and the other was wedged upright between our aisle seat and the seat in front. It was too big to go all the way in, and the other pack on the floor at our feet was blocking it in any case. So most of the pack was in the aisle, which blocked people and the food trolleys trying to get past. So here we were, three of us wedged into a seat and half with no foot room for the next seven and a half hours.

As soon as the train started moving out of the station in Ho Chi Minh City people started reclining in their seats, keen to get some shut eye for the long journey, and boy do these seats recline! If you thought seats on planes encroached on your personal space, you should see these. They virtually fold back into a bed! I’m not sure if the young couple in front of us wanted to recline or not, but given our packs were wedged in and Jack was crawling all over us, they didn’t. But it didn’t matter because Jack’s charms won them over and he managed to get his hands on a few chocolates thanks to the lady in front.

However, there were a few saving graces. The air-conditioning worked, it would have been a disaster if that had of packed it in. The people on the train were incredibly friendly. The Vietnamese absolutely love Jack, constantly touching and stroking him, sometimes even trying to take him out of my arms to have a hold. It’s constant, and if you have any reservations about people touching your child, this is not the country for you. There were a couple of other children on the carriage so Jack made some new friends. There was also what seemed a never-ending procession of food carts making their way up and down the aisle for most of the trip. Chicken soup, corn on the cob, noodles, chocolate, cake, water, coffee, tea and plenty of other food and drink was always available if we needed it.

During the trip at one of the stops about 10 people boarded the train with baskets filled with grapes. They raced on board and started shoving the baskets under seats, pleading with the passengers to let them before nonchalantly sitting down and pretending as though nothing had happened. It was bizarre and I had no idea what was going on until I saw a couple of train attendants have strong words with the grape sellers. For the next 20 minutes or so they tried to sell their grapes to the passengers without being discovered by any staff. In the end the staff realised they were fighting a losing battle trying to stop them and simply turned a blind eye as the grape sellers went about their business.

We arrived in Nha Trang right on time, got off the train and walked straight into a waiting cab that if I didn’t know better could have thought it was waiting especially for us. Truth be told, despite the cramped conditions, the trip wasn’t too bad. We only chose that particular train because it departed and arrived at reasonable times, especially when considering Jack’s sleeping patterns. However, for the next leg from Nha Trang to Danang, where we’ll take a taxi to Hoi An (there’s no train station in Hoi An), we’ll be ensuring we get a soft-sleeper regardless of departure and/or arrival times. We will have much more space, somewhere for Jack to sleep that is comfortable (and not on me), and we’ll be able to do some work on the blog that I was hoping to do on the first leg.

Working away on the blog in our 4-berth soft sleeper

Working away on the blog in our 4-berth soft sleeper

LEG 2 – Nha Trang to Danang (524km, 8 hours 28 minutes)

Wow, what a difference a couple of tickets in a four-berth soft-sleeper cabin makes. Talk about a real step up in class and comfort. Don’t get me wrong, it’s not a luxury cabin on the Orient Express, but it may as well have been in our eyes given our experience in a soft seat from Ho Chi Minh City to Nha Trang.

We didn’t purchase our tickets from the train station on our arrival into Nha Trang because although we’d booked to stay for four nights, we were open to staying longer if we were really enjoying ourselves. As it turned out, while we had fun, we were happy to stick to the original plan. We wanted to purchase our tickets a few days early to ensure we got a soft-berth cabin, and the train station is too far to walk, so we enquired at a few tourist outlets around town. Unfortunately they added a little more than we wanted to pay on top of the ticket price to organise it for us, which is fair enough, so we asked the hotel if they could organise the tickets. As it turned out they were more than happy to do it at no charge, the only addition to the ticket price (641,000VND, $AU32) was a 30,000VND ($AU1.50) delivery fee charged by the train station. We were more than happy to pay, and it saved us from a trek out to the train station. We will definitely be using this method to buy our tickets everywhere we go if the circumstances are the same.

We arrived at the station at 5.15am for our scheduled 5.36am departure and there were people everywhere. I was shocked, it could easily have been 3.00pm given the activity outside the station. We decided to break up Jack’s diet, and provide him with a bit more fibre by buying some Weet-Bix and milk for breakfast, but we didn’t have a bowl. So I asked a lady manning a food cart if she had a disposable bowl I could have. Thinking she’d understood my request she started racing around the station in search for me. About 10 minutes later, exhausted, she returned with two packets of two-minute noodles. Not exactly what I requested, but after a few more hand gestures, and the assistance of other locals who spoke about us much English as I do Vietnamese, she came back with a proper bowl and two spoons. She quoted 15,000VND ($AU0.75), I handed her 50,000VND ($AU2.50) and got 15,000VND ($AU0.75) back. Now I’m no mathematician, but this didn’t add up. It may not sound like much, but a deal is a deal, and considering she’d already turned her back on me I wasn’t going to accept defeat. The banter was good-natured and 30 seconds later I paid 20,000VND ($AU1.00) which was still a pretty good deal.

Lunch is served in our 4-berth soft sleeper

Lunch is served in our 4-berth soft sleeper

As soon as we made our way into our cabin Sarah and I had a smile from ear to ear. Perhaps we wouldn’t have been so happy ordinarily, but given we’d spent almost eight hours of the first leg sitting on top of each other in our soft seats, this was absolute luxury in comparison. There was even a plastic flower perched proudly on the windowsill!

We joined our new travel companions Ewan and Dawn, a lovely Scottish couple from Glasgow on their honeymoon, who were relaxing on the top bunks while we organised ourselves on the bottom bunks. The sheets and cabin were clean, and we could travel in peace with the simple slide of a door. There was no peace and quiet in the soft seats of Leg 1, what I would have done to have a ‘cone of silence’ lower from the roof Get Smart style to drown out the noise in there! There was ample storage room for our packs, a light for each bed and a wall socket to power up any dying electronic equipment. Even the toilets and wash facilities were slightly cleaner. And most importantly there was room for Jack to get up and move around. We could get his toys or iPad out for him to play on the bed, or we could go for a walk around the carriage in relative comfort. Ahhhh bliss.

We didn’t know what to expect with the food, we were assuming the same carts that patrolled the soft seat section would simply make their way from one end of the train to the other. How wrong we were. We first bought a couple of gelatinous rice snacks with meat in the middle wrapped in banana leaves, but these weren’t particularly nice, so we bought some chicken soup from the next cart a few minutes later. Then a man came into our cabin with a menu for us to buy lunch…hello I thought, this is a nice surprise. There were only two options, chicken and rice or pork and rice, but it was a nice touch. We didn’t know what to expect, but when lunch time rolled around our man returned with a couple of lovely meals of chicken, rice, soup (of course) and vegetables. We were soon hoeing in when another cart soon followed with a selection of meats to purchase. Needless to say I bought a few pork rolls wrapped in what looked like spinach leaves (these were amazing), a huge chicken drumstick and some pork skewers. I love my food and I loaded up. There were also whole quails (we think that’s what they were, although the waiter said they were chickens) and a couple of fish options as well.

There was a little table between the lower level beds for us to rest our lunch trays on, but more importantly it made writing articles and producing videos for our travel blog much easier. I even got an hour of sleep, which is not that easy when you have a two-year old boy, work to do and plenty of countryside to see. That was another bonus of this trip, while the scenery of the first leg was dry, rocky and totally uninspiring, the scenery from Nha Trang to Danang was lush and beautiful. The train wound it’s way through the countryside and by the coastline, with lots of locals working the fields and various produce drying in the sun offering a fascinating look at rural life in Vietnam.

Jack had plenty of room to play in our 4-berth soft sleeper

Jack had plenty of room to play in our 4-berth soft sleeper

We arrived in Danang just after 2.00pm and for the first time we had to wait for a taxi…for about 60 seconds. The ride took 45 minutes to get to our hotel, the Thanh Van Hotel, and cost far more than we expected, about 450,000VND ($AU22.50). We’d read it should cost between $9-$15 depending on your negotiating skills, but the taxis are all on metres now so the price is the price I guess.

After this ride we’ve reconciled that if the fare is reasonable we will try and get a sleeper-cabin when travelling anywhere in the world. Jack managed to get a couple of hours sleep which was great for him and us, he had some room to move and play, Sarah and I also enjoyed a lot more comfort and arrived fresh and ready to explore Hoi An. Overall, a far more pleasurable experience than in the first leg, all for just a couple of dollars more.

LEG 3- Danang to Hanoi (915km, 18 hours 30 minutes)

Our taxi driver dropped us off at Hanoi station at around 5.45pm. The hotel organised our train tickets (1,200,000VND, $AU61 each) and driver for us, and surprise surprise, the taxi fare was 100,000VND ($AU5) less than what we paid for the trip from Danang to Hoi An. And it probably would have been even cheaper had we organised it ourselves from the many taxi services in Hoi An.

Our overnight train was scheduled to depart at 6.30pm, and all Jack wanted to do was run around the big engine permanently stationed outside the front entrance. While Jack was running himself into the ground, Sarah and I wondered out aloud how great it would be if the other two berths in our cabin were vacant. We were worried Jack may have a restless night and keep any new cabin mates up.

When we boarded the first thing we noticed was how nice the cabin was, slightly better than the cabin we had in the second leg, which we were more than happy with. The second thing we noticed was the top bunks were empty, and we knew we were one of the last people to board the train. Surely we couldn’t be this lucky, but as the train started to pull away from the station, Sarah and I could hardly contain our happiness. We didn’t know if the train was going to stop anywhere during the night to take on more passengers, but at least there would be a large chunk of the journey where the cabin was just for us. I went for a bit of a walk through the carriages in both directions, and to my surprise a lot of the cabins were either empty or at least weren’t full. A lot of happy people on the train tonight I thought.

We didn’t bring much food with us because from our experience on the first two legs there was so much to purchase. However, after 90 minutes not one trolley had passed our cabin, and from my earlier walk up and down the train I knew there wasn’t a kiosk or food carriage. We were beginning to wonder if we’d made a huge mistake given Jack was getting a little restless and my stomach was starting to grumble. Just when we thought we were going to go hungry, or at least eat Jack’s Weet-Bix for dinner, we heard the familiar rattle of the food and drinks carts. While we were delighted the food cart had arrived, there wasn’t as much to choose from this time around. In fact, whether we liked it or not, we were having chicken and rice soup for dinner as that was the only choice! So we bought three bowls and we sat down for dinner.

We needn’t have worried about Jack having a rough night, he fell asleep at about 8.30pm and didn’t rise until just after 7am. That’s better than when he’s in his own bed at home. We were delighted to say the least. Sarah and I swapped as Jack’s bed companions in the middle of the night so we also got some quality shut eye as well. And despite the train stopping for quite a long time at a station in the middle of nowhere, we woke up with the cabin still to ourselves.

A well rested boy is a happy boy!

A well rested boy is a happy boy!

The food and drink carts rolled around again just after Jack woke and once again the choices were bare, in fact, for breakfast we were having…you guessed it…chicken and rice soup! We’re not sure if it was reheated from last night’s leftovers or a fresh batch, but we bought two bowls for Sarah and I, and Jack had a bowl of Weet-Bix.

The next 4-5 hours were fairly non-eventful, the food and drink carts didn’t swing by again, and the view was fairly uninspiring, mainly built up areas rather than the beauty of the countryside. We arrived at Hanoi train station just after midday and as always, there was a taxi waiting there to take us the one kilometre trip to our hotel.

TIPS

  • Unless you absolutely can’t for some reason, and it needs to be a good one, make sure you travel in a soft sleeper.
  • When purchasing a soft-sleeper, request the bottom bunk (level 1), that way you can don’t have to worry about your kids falling out (if that’s relevant) and you get a little table to work, eat from, read at, etc.
  • Confirm anything you may have read online about your train trip with the person selling you the ticket, it may be wrong.
  • Arrange for your hotel to purchase train tickets on your behalf if you haven’t organised them already, rather than a tourist outlet. They shouldn’t charge you any extra, apart from perhaps a small delivery fee.
  • Bring some snacks with you for the trip. Even though there was ample opportunity to buy food and drinks on the first two legs, food was a little scarce on the third leg. Better to be safe than sorry.

So there you have it, our experience travelling from the south to the north of Vietnam by train over the course of three different legs. I hope it helps with your planning, but remember, regardless of what you read here or anywhere else, if you have specific needs ask the person selling you the ticket.

18 Comments on Everything you need to know about travelling by train in Vietnam

  1. Chris, thanks for sharing your Vietnam train experiences. We are a family of five (2 adults and 3 children) and we are currently looking at options for our next holiday which includes Vietnam so this is really useful for planning our trip options.

    • Hi Anne, I’m really glad this helped. I can’t stress enough to get a 4 berth cabin, just for space, peace and quiet, and a place to rest. Have a great trip.

  2. Vietnam is really cheap when it comes to local transport, but it takes ages to get from one place to another. Your little boy can sleep tight on the train which is excellent. I could because the ride was way too shaky! 🙂

  3. Christine // May 3, 2014 at 9:44 pm //

    Hi Sarah, Chris and jack
    We love train travel and as you have said, it can be awesome, spacious and a chance to catch up n well needed rest – or an adventure that you don’t want to have again soon. Interested in jack sleeping so well for the night, does he roll about much and kick you, or is he passed out from exploring all day!

    Keep up the great blog, we are loving your updates and photos xx

    • Hi Christine, thanks for your kind words, I’m glad you’re enjoying the blog. Once Jack’s asleep he’s really out so doesn’t move or kick much during the night. Sometimes it’s difficult to get him down, but once he’s down, he’s down!

  4. This gave me a chuckle. We found ourselves in the hell of soft seats overnight just last week. So unpleasant and we’ll stick to the sleeper bus from now on! Of course we are mobile with a 12 year old, not a toddler, so it’s easy to do the bus!

    • Oh no, soft seats overnight. That’s even worse! At least our soft seats were during the day so no need to try and sleep. How did the 12-year-old take it? Lesson learnt for all of us I think.

  5. Yeah, pretty much every train we took wound up costing more than seat61 said (inflation!) Our sleeper train in Vietnam was a hoot – we were with two little old local ladies who kept casting us dirty looks and whispering.

    • Haha, you’re spot on with the price situation on Seat 61. But I think the site is run by one guy so keeping up to date must be difficult for him. Did you try and strike up a conversation with the old ladies or wasn’t it worthwhile?

  6. Great info! My husband and I took a soft sleeper train from Hanoi to Da Nang a couple of years ago, and we also found the food selection very few and far between. We were pretty happy that we had stocked up on some snacks from a corner store in Hanoi!

  7. Q – does each sleeper bunk have a power plug, or just one per compartment? My wife needs to plug in a cpap machine.

    • Hi Erich, to be honest I can’t remember if every bunk had it’s own power outlet. However, what I can tell you is we had plenty of equipment that needed charging and we were never short of power. Apart from the first leg, which was a disaster from a comfort point of view, we travelled in four-berth air-conditioned soft sleepers. I can not recommend highly enough that you always travel this way too. It’s just a few extra dollars, but the comfort level is much, much better. And you’ll have plenty of power for your cpap machine. Good luck.

  8. Hi Chris, Glad to know about train travel in VN. We were there many years ago and travel throughout the country (HCMC-Sapa) with many stops and the only train we did (or thought was available) was from Ha Noi to Sapa. We are doing VN again in August and will definitely do trains between cities. Did you prearrange hotels stay? We didn’t last time. But as stated above, we travel by bus and they dropped you of right in front of budget hotels so all we have to do were to walked into one and negotiate. Thanks.

    • Hi Kim, we really enjoyed travelling by train through Vietnam. In fact we travelled by train as much as possible throughout our travels. We regret not going to Sapa, would have loved to get away from the cities and explored the countryside a little more. We prearranged hotels before arriving at our destinations. We used Trivago to find good hotel deals. Have fun in Vietnam 🙂

  9. Hi Chris, I was so happy to read the first leg of your trip as I’m planning to board the same train at that same time… I’m travelling alone to meet my friends in Nha Trang & am undecided whether to risk buying a ticket online at vietnam-railway.com or to get one at the station on the day. where did you buy yours from?

    • Hi Maria, I haven’t heard of that particular website, but we just bought our tickets a couple days in advance for each leg and we never had a problem. For all rail travel advice I’d also check out http://www.seat61.com, it’s awesome! Have a great trip in Vietnam.

  10. Thank you very much for your sharing! I also have a share about Saigon travelling expereience at http://saigon-online.net/?p=2602. But your share is still good to me for the next trip in Vietnam.
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